HDV vs top of the range DV

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Nintembo
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Hi guys,

With all the fuss over the new Sony FX1 HDV camcorder, I was wondering how it actualy matches up against top of the range DV (i.e. Sony DSR-570)in terms of:

Ease of editing
Picture Quality
Inputs / outputs

etc.

Cheers,

Nin

Alan Roberts
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Picture quality, FX1 wins, just.

Connectivity, Z1 matches, just about.

Editing, DV wins hands down. For now.

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infocus
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Quote:
Originally posted by Alan Roberts:
Connectivity, Z1 matches, just about.

What about such areas as genlocking, external tally, timecode in/out flexibility, ability to be controlled by an external CCU, ability to take integrated radio mic receivers etc etc? Even the DSR570's ability to take accessories, and (for example) provide a switched "soft-start" power output for headlights? The Z1 may have two XLR audio inputs, but that does not mean it begins to even approach the DSR570 or any other pro camera for connectivity.

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Picture quality, FX1 wins, just.

Side by side comparison of these two cameras is something I'd like to see, as I've said before. In good conditions, and on an HD monitor, I'd expect the FX1 to be considerably sharper than a DSR570, but possibly losing out a little in highlight handling etc. In dim light, I'd expect the DSR570 to take the lead, mainly thanks to 2/3" v 1/3" chips. But I'd love to scientifically compare them side by side.

Alan Roberts
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OK, I agree.

I was looking at the situation whjere a camera is used stand-alone. In that case lots of the high-end connectivity isn't needed. But you're right about the plethora of stuff that real pro kit gets.

As far as image comparisons are concerned, they've been done already. You might regard my remarks as an unofficial leak, but I couldn't possibly comment ;)

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womblingfree
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Editing, DV wins hands down. For now. [/QB]

Given that Final Cut and iMovie both now support HD is this still true?

Alan Roberts
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Yes, it's still true. HDV carries much more data than DV and so needs either special hardware to handle it or much gruntier cpu and storage. It will always remain so.

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