Make video look like film.

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Main Man
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When I make films, I always like to use de-interlaced video as it gives a more "FILM LIKE" effect. There is one problem with this though, you loss quality!

It had been annoying me for some time - I needed to be able to create high quality film like productions, but didn't know how......but I think I have now cracked it, its simple......

Capture at high quality, interlaced, then when the clips are in Adobe Premiere, goto field options, then choose "FLICKER REMOVAL".

Finally, you can add black "WIDESCREEN" bars to the top and bottom of the screen using the "CLIP" filter.

It worked for me, give it a go, and tell me what you think of this technique.

By the way, visit my web page at

www.mainman.currantbun.com/index.html

to download some free 3D transitions for Boris Effects!!!!

Example:

Main Man.

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gulli
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Looked at the transitions, the butterfly is absolutely fantastic! I really like the football as well. Too bad I don't have BorisFX - yet!!

Gulli

plettner
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Joined: Sep 6 1999

Any ideas on how to get video to look like a Super 8 look (ie. with some flicker; bleached, washed out look; and film noise such as dust, scratches, etc?)on Media Studio 5.2?

Taurus
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Joined: Aug 27 1999

I don't know if it works with MSP 5.2 but it works with Premiere. Quicktime 4 Pro has some nice filters and effects that plugs right in to Premiere. Among them a plug-in that adds film-like effects such as dust, scratches, hair and so on. Unfortunatley it doesn't add flicker and wash-out.
It costs about $30.

/Jocke

/Taurus

chris thomas
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Joined: Apr 23 1999

Yes! Use the Video Paint program.

You'll have to do a rather long animation, so that it doesn't repeat to noticably. Draw long thin lines running vertically, for film scratches, and don't forget to animate them (moving left and right), small dots for 'dust', blotches for the odd bit of crap that always falls in (clumps of dust, or squished bugs), and small curled lines for hairs.

In fact, that sounds fun! I think I may just do it myself...

As for the bleeching/ye olde discolouring, you could use one of the video overlay options. Though I'd probably recommend that you did the entire edit first and be happy with it, and then slap on the overlay and scratches and let them render overnight.

btw, sometimes watching films on tv, you'll see a small circle flash by in the top right (or left) hand corner. It looks like a coffee cup stain, but does anyone know what it is?

Chris.

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Taurus
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As I recall the little 'stain' in one of the top corners is used as a signal to the film operator in a movie theater that it's time to change film reel. Notice how it always appears about two seconds before a straight cut. I don't know if it's used anymore, but it still shows up from time to time.

Correct me if I'm wrong about this.

/Jocke

/Taurus

tom hardwick
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Joined: Apr 8 1999

You're quite right about the imprinted circle (which shows as an elipse when you're watching an anamorphically projected image). It's a cue to the projectionist that the switchover to the next reel is due, and has been used for very many years.

But I'm saddened to read this constant denigration that film suffers at the hands of video folk. To get the film-look we're often told to add scratches, dust, imperfections and flicker, Yet in reality film holds all the aces, and even Super8 holds far more information/frame than any PAL picture.

When I shoot and project film the images are big, bright and wide. There are no scratches, no dust, the dynamic range blows video into the weeds, and with a 48Hz flicker rate (as against PAL's 50 Hz) who can say it flickers more?

So to make video 'look more like film' you really need to add a lot more info/frame and increase the exposure lattitude.

tom.

Unicorn
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Joined: Apr 12 1999

Totally agree; I've never understood why so many people choose to make their video *worse* in order to make it 'look more like film'. While there are obviously occasions when people want to create video which looks like poorly-treated film (e.g. to simulate old home movies), otherwise I'll stick with video that looks like good video, rather than video that looks like really bad film.

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Obi Hayve
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Joined: Sep 10 1999

Maybe 'plettner' wants a scratched 8mm 'look' for his latest production; maybe he's got a sequence in his movie where he needs to distinguish between video and film. Either way, he should be given the benefit of the doubt and given advice on how he can achieve his goal - after all, isn't that what people come to this site for?

I happen to agree that film is much better than video in many ways (only if it's treated with care and stored properly) but the fact is, it's generally more expensive and more hassle than video.

I'd find an old 8mm cine camera, shoot the footage you want to look like film, mistreat it a bit and then get it transferred to video for editing. Then it will look authentic.

Obi.

andyw1234
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8mm Distress Kit

Hi

Filmmakers interested in the '8mm look' might care to check our 8mm Distress Kit:

http://www.mediapreview.net/8mm.htm

There is a demo, tutorial and 3 free sample clips

Thanks

Andy
Mediapreview.net

Michael.Bradshaw
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Joined: Aug 1 2005

wow, ten years later.

I was still in school when this thread was last active!

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Dave R Smith
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Michael.Bradshaw wrote:
wow, ten years later.

I was still in school when this thread was last active!

so 'aged and distressed' has now become mandatory.:eek: ;)

Michael.Bradshaw
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i'm only 28 so not feeling it yet. :)

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