Man on Fire the movie...technic at the end

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rhett7660
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Hi all..

For those of you who have seen the movie Man On Fire.... The last 5 minutes or so.. the scene when he is walking on the bridge..... How did they do the editing part of it........

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RichardB
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Well, the editing is fairly conventional, you just stick your camera down, shoot the footage and paste it all together in an edit suite. Having half-a-dozen cameras rolling helps, but there's nothing there that can't be done single camera.

If you're talking about the flash frame and time ramping, that was done in-camera by shooting reversal stock through a hand cranked camera modified to take modern lenses.

rhett7660
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Richard...

Thank you for replying... When you say the flash sequence are you talking about the way the burst of white inbetween the shots of film? That is what I am mainly looking for. I don't know the termanoligy but I think that is what we are referring too..

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Alan Roberts
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Variable rate cameras are around in electronics now. Panasonic Varicam runs 4-60fps and can ramp while recording. Genesis and D20 are also variable rate, but a bit more clunky to use. You don't have to go to film to do this.

Get my test cards document, and cards for 625, 525, 720 and 1080. Thanks to Gavin Gration for hosting them.
Camera settings documents are held by Daniel Browning and at the EBU
My book, 'Circles of Confusion' is available here.
Also EBU Tech.3335 tells how to test cameras, and R.118 tells how to use the results.

StevenBagley
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rhett7660 wrote:
Thank you for replying... When you say the flash sequence are you talking about the way the burst of white inbetween the shots of film? That is what I am mainly looking for. I don't know the termanoligy but I think that is what we are referring too..

It's general done by turning the camera off while it is filming, as the film slows down you get that flash effect -- you can then turn the camera on and get the same effect at the start of the next scene to get the opposite effect (starting white and becoming the image).

Graeme Nattress has a plugin for Final Cut Pro which simulates the effect, with video.

Steven

rhett7660
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Steven..

Thanks a bunch...that is the effect I was looking for... Do you happen to know of a plug in for premiere pro?

Thanks again for you help

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Mike Pulcinella
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You don't need a plug in to do that effect. I work in Final Cut and do it all the time by slicing two frames from the beginning of my clip and applying the color corrector to it and then pushing the mid and highlight sliders almost all the way up to washout the image almost to white.

If you cut a few slices of varying lengths and wash them out to varying degrees and then move them so that they jump a little you can get a very nice multi-flash effect.

rhett7660
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Mike..

Thank you for your reply. That is exactly what I was looking for..

THANK you again

Also can someone point in me in the right direction for say a webpage or a book that has the most commenly used terms that are used in the film industry post prodcution.. ie ramping? what is that?
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Mike Pulcinella
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You could start here...

http://cepa.newschool.edu/~schlemoj/film_courses/glossary_of_film_terms/glossary.html

I don't see ramping in there, however. I think ramping means a gradual increase or decrease in the speed of a clip. Anyone? Is that right?

rhett7660
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Mike..

Thanks again.....

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Mad_mardy
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There are a lot of errors in that glossery to be honest

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