As many folks around here will already know, Computer Video mag will be having a stand at Video Forum (Tue 11 Feb to Thurs 13 Feb, Wembley).
As in previous years, it will be possible to come along and meet the editorial team, and ask questions about anything and everything to do with video editing, DVD creation and video streaming.
We'll also have some subscription show offers and the like.
Is there anyone in particular YOU think I should try to talk into spending some time on the stand??
I've already got some people to agree to be on the stand (though I don't have exact details of when, yet).
These will include:
Peter Wells (probably Thursday, cos that's when he's giving a talk on DVD, but he may be there some other days, too).
Hendrik Dacquin (streaming video Hexpert from Alacatel, Belgium) - Tues (when he's giving a talk on ADSL-shaped Belgian chocolates, or some such thing), but maybe some other days, too.
Ray Liffen (ex BBC, and the person who fields a LOT of queries hereabouts, especially on Premiere and Canopus Storm). I think Ray's talk (about what video editing program to move up to) is going to be on Wed, though I'm waiting confirmation, but he'll hopefully be on the stand some other days, too.
Richard Jones (Ulead MediaStudio Pro), hopefully on and off throughout the show.
Alan Roberts (of this parish)days still to be arranged.
Alan says, he'll be there fielding quiries on cameras and displays, coding systems, and standards (plus all the other clever stuff that he knows far too much about).
I've also invited a number of others, but await their replies, so think it impolite to name names.
But, back to the question - who would you like to see on the stand?
Oh, and I am of course, talking about video editing related people!
;)
Oh(2) and Video Forum's website is: www.videoforum.co.uk
Register there for easy (and free) entry to the show.
Currently (Fri 3rd Jan, 4pm), the site is running very slowly - though this problem is, apparently, being addressed.
Cheers
Bob C
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Just heard from the show organisers that Apple is going to be there "in force".
That pretty much means that everyone who is anyone in video editing is going to be exhibiting.
Bob C
After the Rice Pudding scenario would you like me to bring some of my fresh baked wholemeal bread? (Although how freshly baked after I've endured the rail journey from Woodbridge is another matter).
See you there (as and when Video Forums registration system is working again).
Chris
And - putting in a shameless plug - when I'm not on the CV stand I'll be on the Ulead stand demonstrating MediaStudio Pro 7. So if you want to find more about it make sure to pop in!
(And there'll be a new edition of my tutorial to go with it)
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Richard Jones, http://www.activeservice.co.uk
Home of the MediaStudio Pro 6 Tutorial, and free 6.5 Supplement
I've been doing some work with lighting with my DV camcorders. I would be interested in discussing what it is like for those on the other side of the viewfinder, and to see what they consider to be the best lighting solution. Someone like Sally Huxley or Jo Guest would be great.
Bob,
I'm glad you bought this subject up, I was about to.
My contibution was going to cover "Shiny Discs" (been done before I know, but you get the drift).
My thoughts are, here we are at Wembley, lots of memeber / readers passing by.
How about asking them to bring along their own created "Shiny Discs" ? The idea being for them / you / Computer Video to assess their "worth". Now I use this term loosely because, some will play, some won't some will be "good quality" some will be "poor quality" you get the idea ..... They tell you / write on the disc what / how they were created (Canon XM1 / Prem 6 Mainconcept / DVD Workshop / Nero) That sort of thing.
I think Members would like the opportunity to see at first hand what is "Good Quality" and so on. Also might be able to determine DVD media playability. The permutations are endless, but the opportunity is there.
I'm afraid you would have to provide the DVD player + TV. But I'm sure you will have a PC with DVD drive at the very least !!
One thing I will be looking for seriously will be "DVD Disc Print Quality" with all the talk of Epson 950 printers and the latest TDK Thermal Printer, what does the output REALLY look like. Any chance of some samples ???
I hope to buy the TDK on the day, if it's for sale, ( at the "right" price, but not before I see output).
Paul
Paul
Bob hasn't replied to this yet and he may well decide that the usual scrum around the CV stand would mean that it is not feasable to have a 'viewing area'.
If, however, he is in favour then I'll be on the stand and can bring along samples of
DVD-R (Pioneer A03)
DVD+R (Philips 890)
(Plus all the lower variations - cDVD, SVCD1, SVCD2, VCD1, VCD2, autorunning MPEG - if anyone's interested)
Most of my encoding is done with the StormEncoder (because its quick)
Also printing samples using the TDK Thermal Printer.
Ray Liffen
Well done Ray, I can certainly bring along a few as well. Looking forward to seeing the TDK disc, so, even if I can't buy one there, at least I'll know what it can produce.
Paul
If the DVD disc quality thing happens I have what may be an interesting compilation DVD for new comers in that it includes vhs, svhs and miniDV and Digital 8 footage captured 1992-2002 edited with both Premiere and EditionDV and encoded through Impression 2.21. on a set up using the Pinnacle DV500 (an original model). It is all menu driven so you can flick about quickly.
It highlights tape/sound and quality issues quite nicely (although it helps if you like aeroplanes).
Regards
Chris
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Dear Richard,
Will you be there every day ?
Kind regards.
quote:Originally posted by RichardJ:
And - putting in a shameless plug - when I'm not on the CV stand I'll be on the Ulead stand demonstrating MediaStudio Pro 7. So if you want to find more about it make sure to pop in!
(And there'll be a new edition of my tutorial to go with it)
quote:Originally posted by CH3:
I've been doing some work with lighting with my DV camcorders. I would be interested in discussing what it is like for those on the other side of the viewfinder, and to see what they consider to be the best lighting solution. Someone like Sally Huxley or Jo Guest would be great.
Don't know if I've got an invite yet? But, If I do get one and Sally is available, I'm sure she'll pop along with me. She wouldn't be on the stand, but she'd be floating around the hall with me.
If I'm there, I'll be open to most OS and system build questions, as well as a few OT chats I'm sure. We'll see.
Tim
Hope so Tim... 
quote:Originally posted by tim.callaghan:
Don't know if I've got an invite yet? But, If I do get one and Sally is available, I'm sure she'll pop along with me. She wouldn't be on the stand, but she'd be floating around the hall with me.If I'm there, I'll be open to most OS and system build questions, as well as a few OT chats I'm sure. We'll see.
Tim
D'oh!
Invite on its way!
Bob C
Stuart
quote:Originally posted by Stuart B-M:
Dear Richard,
Will you be there every day ?
Yep - there every day, about half the time with Ulead, half with CV (hopefully with time left over for lunch and the odd coffee ). Look forward to meeting you - and many of the other so-far "faceless" but familiar names on the board.
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Richard Jones, http://www.activeservice.co.uk
Home of the MediaStudio Pro 6 Tutorial, and free 6.5 Supplement
Not definitely yet, but Guido Giles said he'd try to spend some time on the stand, too.
Bob C
Can I come and look important on your stand too Bob? I promise not to eat all the rice pudding. I can answer lots of questions not because I'm clever but because I'm old, and have been there, tried that.
tom.
What possible use could a man be when he's only got 1,193 postings to his credit????
Of course you are welcome.
As for rice pudding - I don't think Chirpy's going to be bringing any, and I'm not sure I'm going to have the time or energy to make any either.
But, if I do, it's quite likely my boys - both chunkily built [unlike me, of course] would prevent it from leaving the house!
Bob C
BTW, I've just been talking to the chap who's going to be my new boss after Feb 3rd (he was born after I started work here) and he's happy for me to be at the Forum.
Alan,
Now, now, that sounds like ageism to me (is that the right term ?)
And, if you re call, (cast your mind back to Mooblie's party) I'm only just younger than you !!
Paul
PS. I'm up for Wembley this year but getting concerned that very few folk are saying what day they are turning up.
I'm "fluid" at present, but, must make my mind up soon. I keep getting Emails about registering....
Paul
PS want to meet as many "names" as possible. lol !!
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Alan, do you know which day(s) you'll be there yet? if you haven't decided yet feel free to make it wednesday and i shall consider it a great privilage to come and shake your hand!
mark.
ps. i'll be the really young one wandering around asking far too many questions, fotunately i'm not your boss though...
Age is no problem to me, nor do I care that he's male and not female. The only thing thaty matters is can he'she do the job? In this case, I know he does his job better than I could, but he needs help. I can do my job better that he can. QED.
I'm going to try to be there each day, probably from late morning. Anyone who was at Mooblie's will recognise me (but there's a bit less hair) as will anyone who still has the photo. For the rest of you, I'll be the short one with the shiny head and grey beard, intently trying to explain things to people 
quote:Originally posted by Alan Roberts at work:
I'll be the short one with the shiny head and grey beard, intently trying to explain things to people
A sort of mini Gandalf?
How appropriate!
Bob C
I don't do pointy hats (except when Morris dancing in Germany dressed as a garden gnome, but that doesn't count).
Bob, will there be any monitor/projector/display on the stand? It's occurred to me that there's any number of things I can explain better with a few pictures than a lot of words. I'm bringing a laptop anyway, but I've got a DV tape that shows what happens when you overdrive the compressor with too much detail. That's a lot of fun to watch.
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Drat, I knew this was going to happen.
I've just been booked into a meeting in Bristol on Feb 13th. I can't get out of it, to much hangs on it. So I can't be at the Forum on 13th. I'm still planning to be there 11/12th though.
Alan,
These happen to me all the time. See you there (all being well)
Paul
And here's what to do in the evening for anyone in London on the 12th!!!!!!
http://www.laptop-jams.com/
My ticket arrived today, thanks Bob.
I'm intending to do 11/12th (Tuesday/Wednesday), can't do Thursday. With luck, I should be there from about 10.30, I'm intending to drive round the M25 (about 180 degrees) and pay the extortionate parking fee. If that seems too horrendous, I'll find another way for Wednesday. I'm intending to stay until closure each day though.
My ticket has also arrived - thanks Bob.
I'll be on the stand during all three days, arriving at about 1030 (All-zones travel card five pounds and tenpence).
On Wed 12th I'll be giving a talk in one of the lecture theatres. The title for this talk (supplied by the Show organisers) is 'An A-Z of professional NLE' but with just 45-50 mins available the actual theme will be the choices when moving on from low-end editing packages to the higher-priced options.
As requested in an earlier thread, I'll be bringing some examples of disks recorded in different formats - DVD+R (Philips), DVD-R (Pioneer), auto-running MPEG CD etc. To assist comparisons it'll be the same subject material for each - probably Starhyl, a model railway video with trains whizzing round, so there's something also for the Hornby OO enthusiasts!
See you there.
Ray Liffen
A quick update.
Tim Callaghan told me today that he'll be at the show Wednesday, from early until about 4.00.
Peter Wells, should be there all day Thursday and, other things permitting, will try to attend on other days, too.
Bob C
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I've now got my schedule sorted out. I'll be there all 3 days, demonstrating MSP 7 with Ulead from 11:00 to 3:00-ish. Before and after I'll be on the CV stand - from the start on Tuesday, and from around 10 Wednesday & Thursday.
Hope to meet you all there, at various times. Come and see the demos too!
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Richard Jones, http://www.activeservice.co.uk
Home of the MediaStudio Pro 6 Tutorial, and free 6.5 Supplement
Having seen the line up of people attending this forum I really feel that I am paying the price for migrating to Australia.
I wish all of you the very best for this event and will just have to console myself with reading the write up in the magazine.
Don't suppose you want to video all the action at the stand for the week?
No? Thought not!
Dave
Hi peeps,
I shall be attending the forum all day on Wednesday. I will be on the CV stand on and off throughout the day. I look forward to catching up with some of you.
Cheers
Tim
Alan Roberts has confirmed that he'll be there Tues and Wed, probably from 10.30, maybe earlier if the traffic is ok.
Bob C
I finalled the last pages of CV's April issue at about 7pm Monday, so I'm expecting to be at the show all day, every day - in contrast with last year when I was still finaling an issue while the show was on, and thus dashing backwards and forwards between the show and the office.
Hendrik Dacquin, who is giving a talk on streaming video on Tues at 1pm, will be on our stand for most of Tuesday.
Bob C - off to bed for an early night (ready for an early start)
Hi All
I met Bob Crabtree (Through the smoke), Hugo Frazer (9 ft tall ), Lis Keddie (Millionaires row 
), Alan Roberts (Who persuaded me to buy April 2003 Camcorder User for an interview by Ben Frain on page 38 about someone called Alan Roberts, excellent , btw Ben Frain sold me his 80GB Maxtor drive late 2001), Tom Hardwick (Who with Alan persuaded me to go DV in my first post on August 20th 1999) and Richard Jones very ably demonstrating MSP7 at the Ulead stand.
Photo 1 is Alan with Bob's head at the top of the CV mag rack & GG behind the counter.
Photo 2 is Richard Jones demonstating MSP7
A very enjoyable day although my legs are aching.
Regards
I'd just like to thank Bob for inviting me onto the stand. I thoroughly enjoyed every minute of it, meeting so many or the faces belonging to the names. And you wouldn't beleive how many commenst I overheard about CV, all along the lines of "well respected magazine", "professional journalism filling the gap between high street and pro", that sort of thing. I left the show with a rosy glow at being connected to such a publication, a thick head from lack of sleep and the prospect of 3 hours on the N.Circular/M25 again.
If I managed to clear up a few misunderstandings and plant some clear thinking on topics, it was all worth it. With anything like luck, I'll do next year's show as well.
A few quick comments, cos I'm falling asleep at the keyboard.
1/ That is the sort of picture of me I like!
Discreet - not revealing too much. Perfect!
2/ MASSIVE thanks to the many people who gave of their valuable time to be on the stand throughout the show.
Hard to know what to say that could properly do justice to the effort that was put in at the show by these good people - in much the same way that they give so much of their time and expertise freely on these boards.
Names on the roll of honour - in no particular order - are Alan, Tom, Hendrik, Peter, Guido, Richard and Ray (I'm really worried now that I'm so tired that I've missed people!).
It would be unfair to single out any one person but I sincerely hope that everyone who gave of their time does know how very grateful I am for their time and effort - on the stand and in the presentations - and for their very good company!
Thanks too, to Lisa, who once again underpinned everything we did at the show, and to the ad guys from CV - Arran and James - who helped Lisa set up the stand and break it down, and who also manned the transport and the stand. Oh, and congratulations, again, James, on your promotion!
;)
3/ Thanks to the HUGE number of readers who came onto the stand, solely, it seemed to me, with the intention of massaging my ego!
My head was so swollen by the end of the show that I had to leave by the freight doors, cos I couldn't get out through the front doors.
Bob C
Oh, and special anti-thanks to the politicians who have made the penny-pinching decisions, over very many years, that have resulted in London's public transport system being a total disgrace.
Why have generations of these fuckwits never stopped playing politics long enough to realise that London needs a high-quality transport system with fair prices and reliable equipment and vehicles?
The cost - to the people who live and work in London - of our NOT having such a system could be seen every day this week, in the faces of the people who have the misfortune to have to travel by train and bus in London.
The cost to the city itself and to the businesses that operate in London, of our NOT having such a system, must exceed many times the outlay required to give London the transport system it needs.
Disgusted of Ilford
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Bob
Sorry I couldn't make it. Late booking for 2 days work I couldn't turn down, the joys of being self employed etc.
Oh and on the day I could make - the early am news report on the underground chaos completely put me off travelling to the capital. So your final point was especially relevant.
Glad it looks like a success.
Regrds
Chris
Bob
I completely agree with you about the public transport in London, its one of the reasons why I left Ilford for the West Riding.
I was in London on Wednesday but there was no way I could get out to Wembley, have a worth while look round and get back to Westminster for an afternoon meeting.
The answer is to have the show in a location which is not is a transport black hole in north london (and I don't mean the NEC).
The problems of London's transport are not just down to politicians or money - they are also down to an upper management layer that is indifferent to the needs and comfort of passengers and which seems isolated from the large body of staff.
As someone who makes a habit of visiting tube station managers offices (to talk, for example, about poorly spoken, unintelligable, public address announcements or about the illogical arrangement of in and out ticket barriers) I have found an operational level which is demoralised and is ignored when it comes to making simple, cheap changes which would make an immence difference to the travelling experience. The upper management do not know and do not want to know.
Contrast this with our very own Computer Video (and Bob had better stop reading here 'cos I know he blushes easily). What other magazine editor would take three days (+ setup) out of a busy schedule to come and meet his readers and help them to understand an expanding but immature technology? What other magazine can recruit a team of its own readers who will come (for nothing) to help out on the stand? What other magazine has an enthusiastic readership (and the largest subscription base in the group) who prefer honesty to hype?
Bob Crabtree, not Bob Kiley, to run London's transport, say I.
Ray Liffen
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Now that's something I'd pay to see happen.
I'd just like to add that it was great to meet everyone, despite getting slightly dizzy bouncing between stands (Ulead & CV).
I found I was going to the CV stand for a rest (!), as Ulead's was getting pretty frantic at times, and repeatedly demoing the same product gets to you after a while At least people did sit down to watch the demos - must be even worse running a demo when no-one seems to be interested, it was perversely gratifying to see a bit of that on the adjacent Avid stand 
I actually wish I'd had a bit more time to hang around CV, as I'm sure I missed several people who's names at least I'd have recognised. Anyway, a good show, thanks to all at CV, and I'm still feeling a bit shell-shocked, but recovering!
Oh and thanks, johnpr, for that nice, low-key, picture
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Richard Jones, http://www.activeservice.co.uk
Home of the MediaStudio Pro 6 Tutorial, and free 6.5 Supplement
(Tutorial for version 7 available very soon!)
Yes, John caught me off-guard, he smiled at me and I thought I recognised him but wasn't sure. That's the expression he got.
grr... agree about the public transport... i foolishly planned my journey to arrive about 15mins before Ray's seminar... guess what - i didn't see Ray's seminar!
I did see quite a dull seminar about HD - noone really seemed to know why we were all there and Apple were being very noisy next door...
I was extremely impressed by Adobe's stand - particularly by Angie Taylor's after effects tutorial - fantastic!
CV stand was also great finally put faces to names - Bob C, you look nothing like how you write... Alan Roberts, i think you'd look quite good with a pointy hat, you look exactly how i expected... Sadly i didn't get to speak to anyone other than Tom because the stand was so busy all day...
All in all a thoroghly success full day - thanks to all those who made it happen!
Like I hinted at earlier, I actually have got a pointy hat, with pointy ears sewn on. I wore it and a really long silver beard when a group of us did some Morris dancing in Germany, dressed as garden gnomes. Don't even think of asking me why, it's far too long a story.
Thank you God for London public transport!!!
As a poor sole who has to live out in the wilds of Cumbria I have to say that you southern softies don't know when you've got it made! We arrived on Tuesday, somewhat later than hoped, not because of the public transport system but thanks to a couple of lorries on the M1 shedding their loads and blocking the whole system up for several hours. We headed west as far out as Chesham before we cleared the gridlock and glided into London thanks to a very efficient tube system. Parking for the day cost £2 and return fair to Wembley was £4 - up here it would cost that to go FOUR MILES on a rural service that runs maybe six times a day and not Sundays!! So count yourselves lucky.
Other than that, brilliant show, big shock as usual to see how fast things change in just one year, and my thanks to Bob C for the advice on going DVD - the mad fool unwittingly advised me on what system to set up with three years ago and with a bit of luck and a fair wind I'll be full time on my own in two or three more, many thanks Bob and all the rest of you who contribute to these pages.