Windows 2000 & Mitsumi CR-2801TE CD Writer

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I have a problem Ohhhhhhh!

My Mitsumi CR-2801 TE CD Writer is fine in Windows 98SE & DMA is selected which is fine.

In Windows 2000 only PIO mode is an option & it ain't working well. I can't use CeQuadrat ToGo 4.5 in 2000, so I am using Nero 5.5.

I lost 3 CD's trying to record a Audio CD in Win 2000 yesterday. Does anyone have an insight into why I have a DMA option in 98SE but don't in Win 2000.

I am thinking of changing my writer to cable select as my first shot.

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I used to have one of these (it failed under warranty and was replaced with a 4802), but although DMA was selectable the system would crash if I tried to write with DMA enabled. I always kept to PIO.

As far as Win2k, the drive's a pretty old model now so it may not have full support. I don't know how Win2k goes about deciding if CD and other ATAPI devices can support DMA. It may just be taking a fail-safe default.

Not much help I know (sorry), but my £.02

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Richard

Thanks for the input, I have asked the same question on the Mitsumi forum, No answer yet , Faiithful Google.com has also failed to find a relevant post.

I am intending to go for the A03 DVD Writer soon so I won't be going for a ordinary CD writer to replace this ancient workhorse.

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quote:Originally posted by johnpr98:
I am intending to go for the A03 DVD Writer soon so I won't be going for a ordinary CD writer to replace this ancient workhorse.

Flash git

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quote:
Flash git

I will get one eventually but I would like a few more CD's out of the Mitsumi first

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quote:Originally posted by johnpr98:
I have a problem Ohhhhhhh!

My Mitsumi CR-2801 TE CD Writer is fine in Windows 98SE & DMA is selected which is fine.

In Windows 2000 only PIO mode is an option & it ain't working well. I can't use CeQuadrat ToGo 4.5 in 2000, so I am using Nero 5.5.

I lost 3 CD's trying to record a Audio CD in Win 2000 yesterday. Does anyone have an insight into why I have a DMA option in 98SE but don't in Win 2000.

I am thinking of changing my writer to cable select as my first shot.

John Price
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Which 'bios' is flashed onto the Mitsumi drive ?
There was an update just as 2000 came out, my one worked using dma, now no longer writes due to it's age / no of cd's I’ve written with it.

Will connect it back up on Sunday and see if I can read the ‘bios’ info off it.

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fw110_28 is the update (Ver. 1.10) I used in Win98SE, It was for recording 700MB, 80 minute CD's.

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quote:Originally posted by johnpr98:
fw110_28 is the update (Ver. 1.10) I used in Win98SE, It was for recording 700MB, 80 minute CD's.

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that's the version that worked for me .... will try my machine out sunday night / monday morning at work and report as to how i get it to work again or not.

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Cheers

John

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John

If your Mitsumi still works you're a lucky man!! I had 2 fail within warranty and Mitsumi refused to replace the second as mine was discontinued and the new model was too much better (they said) I got a refund and a HP 7200i CDRW for the same money. It has been completely reliable. Anyhoe what I'm waffling around to is are you sure your drive hasn't died - I would have thought that if your CD writing software recognised the drive the Windows version would not have mattered.

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Cliff

The CD Writer works but ain't going A1, I suspect PIO mode.

It maybe that the Mitsumi 2801 just isn't supported by Windows 2000 (reliably).

If sepulcre can get UDMA & I can't in Win 2000 I will have a clue for my next move.

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quote:Originally posted by johnpr98:
Cliff

The CD Writer works but ain't going A1, I suspect PIO mode.

It maybe that the Mitsumi 2801 just isn't supported by Windows 2000 (reliably).

If sepulcre can get UDMA & I can't in Win 2000 I will have a clue for my next move.

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had a power failure at home last night so didn't get a chance to check it yet.( power company blew a transformer and it took them 2 hours to get us back online )

will check it thursday morning at work machine which is running 2000.

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If W2k is the same as Win-XP beta (probably) then DMA is explicitly blocked for the 2801 drive.

I was rummaging in my XP registry (as you do) yesterday trying to fix a completely different CD issue and found a key somewhere called "PIOModeOnly" or something similar, and it contains a list of drive ID strings. Guess what? In that list is "CR2801TE" - or whatever the exact ID is.

Presumably MS have found that the drive is unreliable in DMA mode and blocked it.

You could always remove the ID from the registry and see if it will work. The key is somewhere under HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Services - just do a search on 2801.

Caveat Emptor of course

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I searched & searched & searched using PIO & 2801, unfortunately no joy

I used View-Find Key in Regedt32.

Thanks for the input Richard.

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John

I just looked on a Win2k machine and it's the same, under HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\atapi\Parameters, in PioOnlyDevice.

It's a MULTI_SZ parameter so you probably can't search it directly, and you can only edit it in binary (I notice XP's regedit has better MULTI_SZ display).

Unless you also have one of the other devices listed (unlikely!) you could just rename the value so Windows doesn't see it, and try it out.

I'd be interested to hear the result

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Sir Richard of http://www.activeservice.co.uk

Your fix has worked

I edited the PIO only mode line using Multi String.

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MATSHITA CR-581
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CD-44E
QUANTUM TRB850A
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MAXTOR MXT-540 AT
Maxtor 71260 AT
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Maxtor 7245 AT
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CD-316E
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CR-2801TE

Incidentally the CR-2801TE didn't show until I went into edit.

I removed CR-2801TE line & restarted Windows 2000, I now have DMA mode What the effect will be?

Thank you for your wonderful detective work Richard.

A big thank you to Gary for trying his 2801TE with Win2k today, he couldn't get DMA either.

I'll update in a couple of days to see if it was worth it.

Thanks again

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